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Jun112012

Nice People

Below is a photo which pretty much summarises the attitude of radical Ukrainisators. It is from a demonstration in opposition to the new language law, which was held in the West Ukrainian city of Lutsk. The sign reads: 'Vchy movu kurvo!' which can be translated as 'Learn Ukrainian you whore!'

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Nice people indeed:

'Russia have been given a suspended six-point deduction by Uefa because of the behaviour of their fans during their 4-1 win against Czech Republic. ..An incident in which fans attacked stewards, leaving four needing hospital treatment, is being investigated by Uefa and police...A march by thousands of Russian fans to mark their national day had to be halted and some missiles were thrown as supporters clashed with their Polish rivals...Police say they arrested at least 120 people and that 10 people were injured...inside the ground, Russian fans also displayed a provocative banner.' http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18431163

I'm sure that the Russian fans were, however, provoked by their Polish and Czech fellow pan-slav football fans.....

(intereting to note though, that both incidents involved Russian fans) :-) :-)

June 14, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterMr. Hack

@ Hack

The second incident was clearly started by the Poles though...

June 14, 2012 | Registered CommenterLeoš Tomíček

''inside the ground, Russian fans also displayed a provocative banner.'

Funny, I don't see any mention of any 'provocative banners' being displayed by any Poles??

(you can't trust the BBC though, they're an integral part of the Soros/Berezovsky anti-Russia defamation league....) :-)

June 14, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterMr. Hack

Oh, and hurling 'missiles' too, seems to be a favorite passtime of many Russian nationalists too. Well at least the BBC got the stereotype down pat.
:-) :-)

June 14, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterMr. Hack

@ Hack

The Polish hooligans were just innocent bystanders provoked by a flag. Well, that sounds very smart... :-)

June 14, 2012 | Registered CommenterLeoš Tomíček

Well, there's no mention of any 'Polish hooligans' carrying any provocative flags, themselves. The Polish hooligans seem to be smarter than their Rusian counterparts. How about the 'Czech hooligans'. Were they too carrying any provocative anti-Russian flags?? :-)

June 14, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterMr. Hack

@ Hack

Whatever you say does not change the fact that Polish hooligans attacked Russian fans. Such an attack was not a spontaneous reaction but a planned action.

Besides the point, we are into comment number seven, and you are talking to someone who is a least bit interested in football. Even my post above is not about that.

June 14, 2012 | Registered CommenterLeoš Tomíček

I thought that your post was about 'Nice Guys' :-)

June 14, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterMr. Hack

@ Hack

Anatoly Karlin has tackled the issue of disturbances at football championship, you might want to take your stuff there:
http://darussophile.com/2012/06/14/does-uefa-hate-russia/

June 14, 2012 | Registered CommenterLeoš Tomíček

Actually, I wa trying to entice Mickey to set the record straight, and present the pro-ruskij point of view. (And in the process, obtain a couple of fresh, new 'Averkoisms', they do so brighten my day!) :-) :-)

June 14, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterMr. Hack

@ Hack

I would say Mike wisely stays away from discussions where you are present. ;-) Few have the patience to suffer BS that you produce.

June 14, 2012 | Registered CommenterLeoš Tomíček

And your own fan base here is legion! :-)

(I noticed that with my short hiatus away from here, your fan base dropped even lower!!) :-) :-)

June 15, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterMr. Hack

What's up with dat? I posted 2 entrie last night at 7:00, it's 7:00 in the morning now....this new 'big brother' system of your's is very inefficient, as are all things made in Rasha!....:-) ;-)

June 15, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterSay it ain't so Hack

@ Hack

Unlike you, most people think before they write something. ;-) And unlike you, most people have better things to do then comment on blogs...

June 15, 2012 | Registered CommenterLeoš Tomíček

But Leos, I 've only tried to keep my comments within the spirit of the ridiculous tripe that you try to pas off as being somehow relevant...And you're right in pointing out that I spend way too much time entertaining myself with your often ridiculous rants here. But then again, I'm only dashing off quick 2-3 liners here, whereas you seem to have an unlimited amount of time to write these highly senseless vignettes...:-)

(you seem to have omitted a comment of mine from last night, that I'd have thought you'd have found to be quite relevant to this posting??...)

June 16, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterSay it ain't so Hack

@ Hack

Well indeed, you are right, those who protest the new language law are ridiculous. If you want senseless rants, go to Motyl's blog...

June 16, 2012 | Registered CommenterLeoš Tomíček

Статус російської мови на 31-му місці серед пріоритетів українців http://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2012/06/14/6966721/

Статус російської мови в Україні хвилює тільки 4% громадян http://zakarpattya.net.ua/News/97450-Status-rosiiskoi-movy-v-Ukraini-khvyliuie-tilky-4-hromadian

:-) :-) :-)

June 26, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterSay it aint so Hack

@ Hack

Yes indeed, Russian language status is probably not high on the list of most people's priorities, which still does not mean they are against increasing it. ;-)

June 27, 2012 | Registered CommenterLeoš Tomíček

High on the list of the 3.6% who find it necessary! :-)

Nice to see that your new 'censorship' program has finally allowed this comment to go through...it only took 4 different tries, on four different days....I'm sure that it was some type of techniical glitch. Sure miss the good old days though...but I understand that you need to monitor those who like to use foul language in their commentaries! I'm lucky that I've never, ever told you to F-off!

:-) :-) :-)

June 27, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterSay it aint so Hack

A new group headed by the always entertaining brothers Kapranov are trying to represnet the feelings of the 96.4% of Ukrainians who really don't give much of a hoot for including the Russian language as a regional language in parts of Ukraine. The brothers are in the business of publishing Ukrainian books and literature and are now advocating that Ukrainians stop buying periodicals published by 'Russian friendly oligarchs' in Ukraine. The names o prominent Ukrainian intellectuals mentioned in the article all (with the exception of one Turk) seem to be from the Central and Eastern parts of Ukraine. Individuals from other countries are also supporting this group.

http://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2012/06/27/6967632/

The brothers Kapronov provide a lot of sarcastic but high brow information regarding the Russian/Ukrainian cultural wars in Ukraine...need I say that it is one of my favorites!

http://www.kobzar.com.ua/

June 29, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterSay it aint so Hack

A very interesting piece writeen by a russian language journal editor, a russian living in Ukraine. Although she'd like to have her own child learn proper grammatical russian, she knows that this is now imposible in Ukraine, because there just aren't enough qualified russian lnaguage instructors there:

'А даже если он пойдет в русский класс, то кто и чему будет его учить, если русский не преподавался будущим учителям 16 лет? Где их взять теперь? Так же, как его уже не знают будущие журналисты, инженеры, врачи и юристы'

Besides, all of the future journalists, engineers and jurists of Ukraine will all be converssant in Ukrainian, not Russian

Also, more to the point she adds:

'Не было ни протестов школьников, ни протестов студентов против непознаваемости украинского языка и невозможности в связи с этим жить и работать.

Не было и массовых протестов учителей, врачей, чиновников и представителей других социально ориентированных профессий. Значит, перейти на украинский не составило труда?'

Neither students, teachers,doctors nor other progfeionals ever protested for the Ukrainian language issue in Ukraine...to swith over to Ukrainian was not difficult. Indeed.....

Why try to set the clock back now, and add even more confusion to a country where things are hectic enough as it is? In this russian editor's mind, its already too late for the russain language to make a comeback:

'. В экономике есть такое понятие "фиксированные убытки". Это значит, что потерянное в результате Бог знает чего, уже никогда не вернется. Таким убытком для Украины является русский язык. По-русски, уважаемый депутат Колесниченко, это слово произносят совсем по-другому. Так может не надо нам здесь вашего русского?

http://www.pravda.com.ua/columns/2012/06/25/6967449/

June 29, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterSay it aint so Hack

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