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Aug272012

Udal'tsov And Radical Tatars

Mikhail Delyagin (his blog) has posted this article on facebook...

It seems Russian opposition leader, Sergey Udal'tsov, has found a new ingredient for the opposition solyanka. (1) Below I translate a part from the article linked above:

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At the end of last week, (the article was published on 16 August) he (Udal'tsov) visited Kazan', where surprisingly, he found common language with the representatives of radical Islam and nationalists from the Tatar Youth Union "Azatlyk" (from the Persian word "Ozod" - "Freedom"). Appearing at an unsanctioned demonstration in the center of Kazan', Udal'tsov called on "Tatar opposition" to take part in the "March of the Millions" planned for September, and the leader of "Azatlyk", Nail' Nabiullin, suggested to the "white ribbon opposition" to support the protest movement in Tatarstan.

They came to understanding on this point, after that Nabiullin said that the "white ribbon movement" works "for the welfare of the Tatar nation". When on the press conference in hotel "Art", Udal'tsov was asked: "You are left-wing, and they call for the creation of an Islamic Caliphate", he answered that "it is important to consolidate all opposition forces, which work towards the weakening of the governing regime." He added that "on this account he harbours no prejudices."

What can you say? The enemy of my enemy is my friend and ally, and in terms of organisation, "Azatlyk" and "Hizb ut-Tahrir" can turn out to be rather beneficial. "Azatlyk" is famous for organising a thousand strong demonstration in support of the Imam of the Qolsharif mosque, Ramil' Yunusov. They are already building up contacts with similar organisations in other Muslim republics, and together with the Bashkiri movement "Kuk bure" they denounced "Moscow's genocide towards Muslim nations in Russia." And "Hizb ut-Tahrir" has a network of cells across the post-Soviet space.

But where is Moscow, and where is Kazan' and Ufa? And how can the mobilisation of radical Islamists influence Autumn offensive in the capital (that is Moscow)? They will all come to Moscow or what? Hardly, and besides, the radical Islamic opposition is not very numerous. It is not popular either in Tatarstan, or in Bashkiria, because there live normal people, and despite all pretensions towards Russian government, they prefer to maintain status quo, instead of ending up in an Islamic Caliphate.

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The above is a typical article on Azatlyk and Udal'tsov in Russian media. They lump Azatlyk together with Hizb ut-Tahrir which I found rather strange, and quite frankly, a bit ignorant. I decided to do a little diversion here, to explain where my curiosity led me.

Azatlyk is a Tatar organisation which appears to conduct demonstrations, usually numbering no more than few dozens, in support of Tatar identity, with a toxic dose of Russophobia.  

Source The placard at the back reads: "Suitcase, Train station, Russia..." 

Hizb ut-Tahrir on the other hand is a pan-Islamic organisation with a goal of reestablishing the Caliphate. (2) Of course, such a goal has little to do with the goals of Azatlyk, Tatar separatism, and Tatar national identity. Hizb ut-Tahrir does not care one bit about Tatar language, Tatar identity (apart from Islam being part of it), and separatism is just means to an end.

Here is their UK website, UK is pretty tolerant to these people, they do their activities in the open here. Not so in Russia and many other countries around the world. In Russia they are banned. But since Hizb ut-Tahrir is largely non-violent, albeit radical, I think it can exist under the radar of authorities. In this case they apparently were even able to hide their true nature from Azatlyk.

I found an interview with the leader of Azatlyk, Nabiullin, which he gave recently to Tatar Zamani, (in Russian on a Muslim portal here) where Nabiullin explains his contacts with Hizb ut-Tahrir. He says that he was approached by some people from a certain mosque named al-Ihlas with a proposal to organise a demonstration in support of Muslims. Following recent assassinations of Muslim leaders in Tatarstan, the authorities allegedly arrested lot of people, which is as normal procedure in post-Soviet space, as is ignorance of Muslim issues.

The people who approached Nabiullin spoke Tatar to him, and expressed some understanding of Tatar issues. But then Nabiullin and his friend went to that mosque for Iftar, (3) and he began to have suspicions about the group's true nature. He noticed that all of the talk was about building the Caliphate. Go over to that UK website to get a taste of what that is like. Furthermore, this conversation was in Russian which Nabiullin found weird. Communicating Islamism in Russian however makes sense, the target audience of Islamists in Russia are Muslims, and what apart from Islam do Muslims in Russia have in common? They all understand Russian. I do not know whether non-Tatars were present at that event, but I am sure the participants read a lot of propaganda literature in Russian.

Things came to a head during the demonstration. Nabiullin was not included in the organisational committee, even though it was he who informed the authorities about it, and he considers himself responsible. Next the Hizb ut-Tahrir people asked that no Tatar flags be brought to the demonstration, as they find such things anti-Islamic. They also had some watchmen at the demonstration which ensured that men and women are properly separated. On Azatlyk demonstrations, women protest together with men, and more often than not without head-covering.

Azatlyk seems to appropriate some Islamist esthetics at their demonstrations. Look at the video below for instance, it is titled "Day of Remembrance", they are remembering sixteenth century Russian conquest of Kazan':

"Takbeer! Allahu Akbar!" is an electrifying slogan, but these punks are not some big nasty mujahedeen from the woods...

Nabiullin says that associating with Hizb ut-Tahrir was a big mistake and that they were duped by the people from al-Ihlas. He says that if they knew, they would never have agreed to working with them.

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So much for the connection between Azatlyk and Hizb ut-Tahrir, for the sake of fairness, now back to Udal'tsov. His reaching out to Azatlyk is what I would call: "hunting for millions". They are planning yet another March of the Millions, but clearly do not have those millions, so they have to get whatever support they can get. Nemtsov thinks that if they bring one million out on the streets of Moscow, the government will be forced to hold roundtable talks with the opposition, and Udal'tsov just does some recruiting.   

In the end they are just creating a diverse carnival of the dissatisfied, the reasons of their discontent however vary from group to group. For instance, Azatlyk appears to be more anti-Russian than anti-Putin. If Udal'tsov was the president of Russia, they would be anti-Udal'tsov. Not that they would be the only Russophobes there, turns out Ukrainian nationalists also take part in the protests. That mysterious Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA) flag raised over Bolotnaya back in Winter seems to be just that, UPA flag raised by Ukrainian nationalists.     

1) Traditional Russian meal, the term is often used when there is a lot of diversity.

2) I really hate the term used in the translation above, "Islamic Caliphate", there never was any other kind of Caliphate.

3) Evening meal during the month of Ramadan. 

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Reader Comments (23)

Russia is no longer a place where radicals will battle each other in the street over primacy of the government, so this idea is an anachronism. I have heard that he was a contender to replace Zyuganov, but after posing with people whose association is based on ethno-primitivism that is against mainstream society, I think it is safe to conclude that he is through. His commitment to democracy was just a sham since the public's perception of this never occurred to him. Even the liberasts' space cosmonauts (Chirikova) are officially running for office.

August 28, 2012 | Unregistered Commentercartman

So many obstacles to Putin's project of regathering the 'Rus' lands...and so many more, I'm afraid yet to come. It's telling that that the UPA flag seen at Bolotnaya last winter, still causes you some trepidation Leos...what next? a tryzyub over the Kremlin??....:-)

August 28, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterArchaeological Hack

@ Hack

You are an idiot. ;-)

August 28, 2012 | Registered CommenterLeoš Tomíček

@ Hack

Speaking of the tryzub, the tryzub is not a typically Ukrainian symbol anyway.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Alliance_of_Russian_Solidarists

It was adopted by Hrushevsky, who copied it from the symbol of Prince Vladimir, but appears he was not very original. :-))

August 29, 2012 | Registered CommenterLeoš Tomíček

Yeah, it's typically a Russian one, you've made your point! Next time re-read any citations that you point to:

'The organization adopted a logo of the Russian flag with the symbol of St. Vladimir, frequently used by Ukrainians, to demonstrate the continuity and interrelatedness of Russian and Ukrainian tradition.'

August 29, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterArchaeological Hack

@Archaeological Hack

A British and American jihad Mr Hack as the late Tom Lantos said confirms Americas continuing support for jihad:

“just a reminder to the predominantly Muslim-led governments in this world that here is yet another example that the United States leads the way for the creation of a predominantly Muslim country in the very heart of Europe. This should be noted by both responsible leaders of Islamic governments, such as Indonesia, and also for jihadists of all color and hue. The United States’ principles are universal, and in this instance, the United States stands foursquare for the creation of an overwhelmingly Muslim country in the very heart of Europe.”

@Leoš Tomíček

Tolerant how about covertly actively support as up until he created the MI5/6 affiliated Muslim group Al-Majaharoun one of the leaders of Hizb-ut-Tahrir in Britain was a long time MI6 asset Omar Bakri Muhammad.

“Omar Bakri Muhammad (Arabic: عمر بکری محمد‎ `Umar Bakrī Muḥammad; born Omar Bakri Fostock in 1958 in Syria) is an Islamist militant leader who was instrumental in developing Hizb ut-Tahrir in the United Kingdom before leaving the group and heading another Islamist organisation, Al-Muhajiroun, until its disbandment in 2004”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Bakri_Mohammed

Britain has been the leading country running Islamic terrorist operations against Russia that runs through Britain like 9/11 that ran through a protected European and North American Chechen terrorist network.

This is exactly what I have been talking and warning about for years that using predominantly Islamic proxy using the Chechen conflict like The Pale of Settlement as a cover and a base to spread jihad in Russia and the near abroad in Crimea, Tatarstan and that Ural Muslim republic that I forgot what its name is that Hizb-ut-Tahrir has been caught many times recruiting and preparing terrorist attacks and in the Central Asian stans to bring about a civil war and break up Russia along its Turkic ethnic regions.

I think in Britain H-U-T was caught celebrating and actively supporting Muslim to go and fight in Chechnya.

The barbarians have been in the gate for a long time and now it is coming to ahead that I have warning about for years pushing towards a civil war scenario and the best commentary Russia can muster is that the US state department and Finland support the KavakCenter, the ACPC lobby and support the Chechen separatist foreign minister in the US that is the most basic knowledge that has been well known for years and you could find within a minute on Google.

Pathetic!

August 29, 2012 | Unregistered Commenterjack

@ Hack

How does that quotation you cited prove me wrong?

August 29, 2012 | Registered CommenterLeoš Tomíček

@ jack

I thought that British Muslim radicals work with some consent or cover from the secret services.

August 30, 2012 | Registered CommenterLeoš Tomíček

' the tryzub is not a typically Ukrainian symbol anyway'

If it's not, then why not emblazen one right over the Kremlin??.......:-)

Jack - I guess I'm a little behind in the conspiracy theory field. Why exactly does the US want to create a Muslim country in the center of Europe??......I shudder to even wonder why???......................:-)

August 30, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterLaughing Hack

@ Hack

Because your proposal is idiotic, that's why...

August 30, 2012 | Registered CommenterLeoš Tomíček

That may be so Leos, but it's certainly written within the parameters that you've so clearly established:

''' What you are reading here is my blog, I do not spend much time exploring issues here, it is not a worth while venue.'

August 30, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterArchaeological Hack

@ Hack

So what, who gives a damn?

August 30, 2012 | Registered CommenterLeoš Tomíček

Nobody!

August 30, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterExistentiall Hack

@ Hack

Which proves once again that you are an idiot. ;-)

August 30, 2012 | Registered CommenterLeoš Tomíček

You must be having a bad day at 'the office' today....writer's block no doubt. How about a nice juicy tale about Shevchenko's amorous love affairs?? :-) Or better yet, why Hrushevsky so nefariously concoted the tryzub as Ukrainian national symbol. I'm sure the world is dying to find out? (but first, please put on the finishing touches on the one about how the Polish/Austrians concocted and spread the Ukrainain language to the 'Dniper Region' ....) :-) :-)

August 30, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterIdiotic Hack

@ Hack

Whatever I write, you are unable to substantively refute, never in fact have you shown any aptitude for that. As you can see, I am therefore totally uninterested in talking to you...

August 30, 2012 | Registered CommenterLeoš Tomíček

I chose to differ. The 'debunking' scorecard that you keep was clearly engineered in a pro-russophile manner (I suspect by you know who).
On my own socrecard, you're clearly way behind! ....:-)

August 30, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterDeeply Offended Hack

@ Hack

Which once again proves that you are an idiot. ;-)

August 30, 2012 | Registered CommenterLeoš Tomíček

"If it's not, then why not emblazen one right over the Kremlin??.......:-)"

I thought it was the symbol of the Rurikids, who came from the North (aka Russia).

August 30, 2012 | Unregistered Commentercartman

@ cartman

The Rurikids used a wide variety of crests:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ruriks_crests1.png

Only Vladimir appears to have used the one that is the symbol of Ukraine. The father of Vladimir, Sviatoslav, appointed him to be the ruler of Novgorod, Vladimir was actually forced to flee to Scandinavia, and returned from there with an army of Viking brutes, and took control of everything. :-))

August 30, 2012 | Registered CommenterLeoš Tomíček

@Laughing Hack

Conspiracy fact from different intelligence sources and countries Pakistan, France and the US and even some of the domestic media here in Britain that the leading jihadists are linked to and protected by MI6.

@Leoš Tomíček

It is pretty well known that Bakri and the other leading Islamists like Qatada and Hamza were given the green like and in cases protected by MI5/6 to recruit Muslims to fight in MI6/CIA foreign wars as long as they did not commit terrorist attacks in the UK something called "the convenient of security".

August 31, 2012 | Unregistered Commenterjack

'Conspiracy fact from different intelligence sources and countries Pakistan, France and the US and even some of the domestic media here in Britain that the leading jihadists are linked to and protected by MI6.'

This may be so Jack....but then how does one jump to:

'the United States leads the way for the creation of a predominantly Muslim country in the very heart of Europe.'

Quite a dramatic leap now, wouldn't you say??.........

@Not Quite Buying Into It Hack

Like Britain the US was training and helping Al Qaeda and the Bosnian jihadists, KLA and Chechen militant like the FSA in Turkey and private British security firms and military camps in the US.

US mercenaries were even part of KLA units during the Kosovo war co-ordinating attacks with NATO.

It was the US that was at the forefront of supporting and pushing for these Al Qaeda connected states Bosnia and Kosovo that still run terrorist training camps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHvolvKA7D0

Tom Lantos was one of the biggest supporters of Albanian separatist’s way back in 1990 who delivered his “the United States leads the way for the creation of a predominantly Muslim country in the very heart of Europe” that I partially quoted in my previous comment on a US hearing on US recognition of Kosovo as an independent state.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P_DLHEQAfQ

“Just a reminder to the predominantly Muslim-led government[s] in this world that here is yet another example that the United States leads the way for the creation of a predominantly Muslim country in the very heart of Europe. This should be noted by both responsible leaders of Islamic governments, such as Indonesia, and also for jihadists of all color and hue. The United States’ principles are universal, and in this instance, the United States stands foursquare for the creation of an overwhelmingly Muslim country in the very heart of Europe.

September 1, 2012 | Unregistered Commenterjack

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